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	<title>Comments on: Important Issue of the Day: Forks in the Dishwasher, Handles Up or Handles Down?</title>
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		<title>By: KLRnZane</title>
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		<dc:creator>KLRnZane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 18:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am with Jay Allen!! His post was from August so I&#039;ve pasted it here for those who don&#039;t want to look back. The only thing I&#039;d care to add is that...

If you&#039;re unloading a clean dishwasher with dirty hands, filth in your mouth and possible illness from germs is the least of your worries as you must have that &quot;specific kind of stupidity&quot;!

Jay Allen Says: 

August 16th, 2010 at 3:46 pm 
Any person who would reach – without looking carefully at what they are grabbing – into a basket full of knives deserves every laceration they get. The argument that handles up is safer is an interesting one because it requires us to share the mindset that idiots should be protected from fork tines. Instead, I would argue that the occasional cutlery jab is the ideal remedy to a specific kind of stupidity. Seeing as every possible threat cannot be prevented in advance, day-to-day living requires a modicum of attention and thought. In preventing those who reach blindly into baskets of knives from being harmed, we do them a disservice, for this sadly lulls them into the view that every basket of knives – literal and metaphorical – has been adjusted into a tidy fan of handles by some unseen, over-protective aunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with Jay Allen!! His post was from August so I&#8217;ve pasted it here for those who don&#8217;t want to look back. The only thing I&#8217;d care to add is that&#8230;</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re unloading a clean dishwasher with dirty hands, filth in your mouth and possible illness from germs is the least of your worries as you must have that &#8220;specific kind of stupidity&#8221;!</p>
<p>Jay Allen Says: </p>
<p>August 16th, 2010 at 3:46 pm<br />
Any person who would reach – without looking carefully at what they are grabbing – into a basket full of knives deserves every laceration they get. The argument that handles up is safer is an interesting one because it requires us to share the mindset that idiots should be protected from fork tines. Instead, I would argue that the occasional cutlery jab is the ideal remedy to a specific kind of stupidity. Seeing as every possible threat cannot be prevented in advance, day-to-day living requires a modicum of attention and thought. In preventing those who reach blindly into baskets of knives from being harmed, we do them a disservice, for this sadly lulls them into the view that every basket of knives – literal and metaphorical – has been adjusted into a tidy fan of handles by some unseen, over-protective aunt.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Thinkit Through</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Thinkit Through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 20:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The correct way to load utensils in a dishwasher is handle side up.  The dishwasher sterilizes everything that is inside it when it washes.  But if someone has unclean hands, and is picking up the utensils after they are clean by the non-handle side of the utensils, then germs get right back on the utensil.  There is no 5 second rule on touching utensils with unclean hands.  That is how we get sick.  It defeats the purpose of cleaning the utensils in the first place.  If you are going to do that, why wash?  Why not just rinse everything off instead? (sarcasm...)  it just doesn&#039;t make sense......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The correct way to load utensils in a dishwasher is handle side up.  The dishwasher sterilizes everything that is inside it when it washes.  But if someone has unclean hands, and is picking up the utensils after they are clean by the non-handle side of the utensils, then germs get right back on the utensil.  There is no 5 second rule on touching utensils with unclean hands.  That is how we get sick.  It defeats the purpose of cleaning the utensils in the first place.  If you are going to do that, why wash?  Why not just rinse everything off instead? (sarcasm&#8230;)  it just doesn&#8217;t make sense&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reedhoppa</title>
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		<dc:creator>reedhoppa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody with sense knows that the handles must be down to clean the utensils properly. I&#039;ve been loading and unloading dishwashers for 30 years and have yet to so much as nick a finger with this method. For Pete&#039;s sake people, let&#039;s get on the same page with this. The handles-up people must be stopped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody with sense knows that the handles must be down to clean the utensils properly. I&#8217;ve been loading and unloading dishwashers for 30 years and have yet to so much as nick a finger with this method. For Pete&#8217;s sake people, let&#8217;s get on the same page with this. The handles-up people must be stopped.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 11:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Handels up!

So when you remove clean pieces you don&#039;t touch the clean surfaces that go in your guests mouths.  That is what we learned in proffessional kitchens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Handels up!</p>
<p>So when you remove clean pieces you don&#8217;t touch the clean surfaces that go in your guests mouths.  That is what we learned in proffessional kitchens.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any person who would reach - without looking carefully at what they are grabbing - into a basket full of knives deserves every laceration they get. The argument that handles up is safer is an interesting one because it requires us to share the mindset that idiots should be protected from fork tines. Instead, I would argue that the occasional cutlery jab is the ideal remedy to a specific kind of stupidity. Seeing as every possible threat cannot be prevented in advance, day-to-day living requires a modicum of attention and thought. In preventing those who reach blindly into baskets of knives from being harmed, we do them a disservice, for this sadly lulls them into the view that every basket of knives - literal and metaphorical - has been adjusted into a tidy fan of handles by some unseen, over-protective aunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any person who would reach &#8211; without looking carefully at what they are grabbing &#8211; into a basket full of knives deserves every laceration they get. The argument that handles up is safer is an interesting one because it requires us to share the mindset that idiots should be protected from fork tines. Instead, I would argue that the occasional cutlery jab is the ideal remedy to a specific kind of stupidity. Seeing as every possible threat cannot be prevented in advance, day-to-day living requires a modicum of attention and thought. In preventing those who reach blindly into baskets of knives from being harmed, we do them a disservice, for this sadly lulls them into the view that every basket of knives &#8211; literal and metaphorical &#8211; has been adjusted into a tidy fan of handles by some unseen, over-protective aunt.</p>
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		<title>By: joana</title>
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		<dc:creator>joana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just read the instructions of your dishwasher. they had studied these things. The instructions of my dishwasher mention that spoons should be separated otherwise they will stick together and the water would not flow correctly. The most space among all the better flow of the water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just read the instructions of your dishwasher. they had studied these things. The instructions of my dishwasher mention that spoons should be separated otherwise they will stick together and the water would not flow correctly. The most space among all the better flow of the water.</p>
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		<title>By: The engineer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The engineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always late to the party, I am.

If you own one of those spiffy stainless steel commercial dishwashers (the kind you see in restaurant kitchens), load your flatware handles up.  These dishwashers are designed to do it that way, with VERY high pressure water sprays, heavy de-soiling chemicals, etc.  If, however, you own a more mundane residential dishwasher, the handles go down for all but the knives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always late to the party, I am.</p>
<p>If you own one of those spiffy stainless steel commercial dishwashers (the kind you see in restaurant kitchens), load your flatware handles up.  These dishwashers are designed to do it that way, with VERY high pressure water sprays, heavy de-soiling chemicals, etc.  If, however, you own a more mundane residential dishwasher, the handles go down for all but the knives.</p>
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		<title>By: banana J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>banana J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol! WAIT........BANANAS!!!!!!!! MUST EAT BANANAS NOM NOM NOM NOM!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol! WAIT&#8230;&#8230;..BANANAS!!!!!!!! MUST EAT BANANAS NOM NOM NOM NOM!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like em with the handles sticking up because they&#039;re easier to grab and i won&#039;t hafta touch where people&#039;s mouths are gunna be. i mean isn&#039;t that gross? i wouldn&#039;t want to use a fork or spoon where someone&#039;s fingers were all over it no matter how clean they say they washed their hands!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like em with the handles sticking up because they&#8217;re easier to grab and i won&#8217;t hafta touch where people&#8217;s mouths are gunna be. i mean isn&#8217;t that gross? i wouldn&#8217;t want to use a fork or spoon where someone&#8217;s fingers were all over it no matter how clean they say they washed their hands!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When in doubt, read the Dishwasher&#039;s Owner&#039;s Manual:

In their Safety Section, they will ALL tell you to put the pointy (sharp) end of a knife DOWN!

As the manufacturers and the one&#039;s always getting sued by users, they must already know something about this subject that the &quot;handles down&quot; folks don&#039;t!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When in doubt, read the Dishwasher&#8217;s Owner&#8217;s Manual:</p>
<p>In their Safety Section, they will ALL tell you to put the pointy (sharp) end of a knife DOWN!</p>
<p>As the manufacturers and the one&#8217;s always getting sued by users, they must already know something about this subject that the &#8220;handles down&#8221; folks don&#8217;t!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Masnick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn.  Missed a good debate.  My take: handles down... with the exception of sharp knives (and I&#039;m not sold on the sharp knives bit either...).  I used to do everything up until a former roommate yelled at me for having the sharp knives up.  But, honestly, I&#039;ve never been hurt with them up, and so I&#039;m sticking with up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn.  Missed a good debate.  My take: handles down&#8230; with the exception of sharp knives (and I&#8217;m not sold on the sharp knives bit either&#8230;).  I used to do everything up until a former roommate yelled at me for having the sharp knives up.  But, honestly, I&#8217;ve never been hurt with them up, and so I&#8217;m sticking with up.</p>
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